Microsoft Interview

A conversation with President and CTO Souhil Benammour & Michael Butler (respectively) of OutSource Information Systems. Read more about OISSITE in our about page.

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"Using Windows as a Solid, Dependable Hosting Platform"

A conversation with Souhil Benammour & Michael Butler of OutSource Information Systems

OutSource Information Systems provides Web hosting and development services, as well as PC and network support, to customers in the private and public sectors.

Case studies provide technical decision-makers with concrete examples of how adapting technology can help solve business problems. We chatted with Souhil Benammour and Michael Butler of OutSource Information Systems to get their perspectives on the customer-driven and ever-changing industry of Web hosting.

Key Findings:

OutSource Information Systems made a commitment to Microsoft technologies early on as their platform of choice for Web hosting, and they have seen the strength of that choice grow over time:

  • Partnering with Microsoft helps OIS identify business leads that help fuel the firm's continuing success
  • Patching Windows applications is simpler than corresponding Linux-based patching
  • The revenue associated with OIS's Windows hosting business prevents licensing costs from being a burden
  • The growth in Windows as a hosting platform is aided by increased support for open source applications, as well as improved PHP compatibility
Questions:

Souhil and Michael, can you give us some information on your background and on OIS?

Michael Butler: I am one of the co-owners along with Souhil. We incorporated the company back in 2003. Both Souhil and I come from a long IT background, with each of us having approximately 20 years of IT experience.

Souhil Benammour: I am the co-owner along with Michael. OIS was focused on Microsoft technologies from early on, and lately we have started offering Virtual Private Servers, which we feel will be the next generation of hosting.

Why go with Microsoft?

Souhil: We decided to go with Microsoft because we felt that Microsoft had some great new emerging technology at the time such as ASP.NET, and we also thought SQL Server was a very strong database platform.

We also saw that with the release of Windows Server 2003, Microsoft was making a push to get hosters on Windows. That made it a very good time to get into the hosting business with Microsoft.

Microsoft had done a good job of providing documentation and a strong SDK for new Web development technologies such as ASP.NET. We saw a lot of developers becoming interested in building applications on top of ASP.NET and Windows.

Microsoft also made it easy to purchase Windows as a hoster, in terms of keeping the overall cost for licenses low.

Has Microsoft been able to help you drive new business for OIS?

Michael: They have a number of resources for hosters to take advantage of, from broad-based marketing resources to lead-generation tools.

Trying to go out there and find customers on your own can be a very expensive proposition. One of the things that Microsoft helps us with is that they bring us leads and they help us to identify and target the right ones to go after.

We have had many customers come to us through Microsoft sites and Microsoft-based channels. We have customers coming to us from all over the world.

What are some differences that you as a hoster see between Linux and Windows?

Souhil: A bad point about Linux is that it can’t simply be a black box. With Linux, I had some issues that I couldn't initially fix on my own. I had to just basically copy and paste some things I found without really knowing what was going on after I applied the fix.

In terms of keeping systems patched, what differences have you seen between Linux and Windows?

Souhil: It is definitely easier to patch an application running on Windows than one running on Linux. There is no doubt about that. On a Linux-based server, you have to first look for the right distribution, then the right patch, download it, decompress it, run the script, and then make sure everything works correctly. There are definitely different approaches to patching when you compare Windows and Linux.

In this area, the big problem that I have with Linux is that there are tons and tons of software libraries and a number of small tools, and that can make it hard to determine what approach to take to solve a problem and which application to install to solve it the best way.

That makes it hard to maintain a server.

What about configuring each platform? Have you seen some key differences?

Michael: There are always going to be more question marks around configuring a Linux server. With Windows, I think we all feel a bit more comfortable in knowing that it is going to operate as we expect it to. With Linux, it might be free and all, but there seems to be more work to get things to really work right.

What about cost differences between Linux and Windows?

Souhil: We have a hoster-specific license agreement with Microsoft, so all of our licenses go through that agreement. Basically, we report on a monthly basis how many licenses we need and go from there.

Linux is free, of course, but with Microsoft you get a consistent, secure server. There is a cost for that in the form of an up-front license cost, but with the revenue we get from the Windows hosting side of our business, the cost for licenses isn’t a burden.

How do you feel about Microsoft offering PHP support on Windows Server?

Souhil: By offering PHP on Windows, Microsoft recognized that PHP is in use by a fair number of developers, so I think offering PHP on Windows is a good thing. It will give potential customers choice in where they run PHP-based applications.

What are your thoughts on the fact that the number of IIS-based Web servers are essentially on par with the number of Apache-based Web servers?

Souhil: I think this is happening for two reasons. First, there are more and more open source projects and open source applications supported on Windows. I know that there are a lot more open source applications, Web applications, CMS applications, and others that are going to be used on top of IIS. And the second thing is that there is better PHP compatibility with Windows and IIS.

Michael: Microsoft has improved IIS over time. The stability is there now, and the feature set has increased to the point where the gap has closed between IIS and some of the other competitive Web servers. People are more trusting of IIS now, and they are more confident in its ability to deliver. I think that is one of the reasons the gap has definitely narrowed.

Meet the Team:

Souhil Benammour, President since 2003.

Souhil Benammour, cofounder of Outsource Information Systems has over 20 years of experience in Information Technology, software development web development and project management. His major experience and strengths includes development of web applications for the real estate industry and web 2.0 technologies using Microsoft ASP.Net and SQL Server. His primary role in the company is to enhance the existing infrastructure and hosting workflow by using different Microsoft solutions and technologies.

Michael Butler, CTO since 2003.

Michael Butler, cofounder of OutSource Information Systems (OIS), has over 20 years of experience in the IT industry. Most of his expertise has been gained in the field working as a consultant and Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer. Michael's primary role is focused on architecting and implementing the infrastructure needed to support the web hosting business. Michael often collaborates closely with Souhil to anticipate what future products and services their customers will be looking for, what technologies will meet those needs, and how best to get out ahead of the curve with research and development. He is also responsible for vendor relationships and regularly consults directly with customers on designing their own Microsoft infrastructure solutions.

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